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4petasake
#1 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:12:21 PM
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Don't forget the debate tonight at 7 pm on ABC:) in one hour.
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4petasake
#2 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:39:48 AM
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Well lets here it? No comments on the debate??
pgculater
#3 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:39:27 AM
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Thanks for the heads-up. Caught it, and thought they all handled themselves well. Now that Herman Cain has suspended his campaign, my preference order is Santorum, Bachman, (Paul), Perry, Gingrich, anybody else, Romney. Paul is in parentheses because, for me, extending his isolationism to Israel is a deal-killer.
4petasake
#4 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:23:17 PM
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Not sure why there were very few comments on the debate anywhere, thought everyone would get their 2 cents in. Anyway, this from the OTHER forum:

HOPE EVERYONE WATCHED. PERRY HAS FOUND HIMSELF,,,AND IS BEING HIMSELF,,WHO AMONG US WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN KNOCKED BACK WHEN YOU ENTER AND EVERYONE STARTS ALL THE ATTACKS STRAIGHT AT YOU?? IF YOU WATCHED,,,HE AND RICK SANTORUM GOT WAAAY LESS TIME THAN THE OTHERS!! IT WAS A "DEM" FORUM,,AND THEY DONT WANT HIM TO MOVE UP,,BECAUSE HE CAN WIN,,HIS IDEAS ARE GOOD,,AND HIS MORALS AND RECORD ARE GOOD,,NOT MUCH TO SMEAR HIM WITH!!! BACHMAN NEEDS TO STOP SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD,,I COULD STAND IN FOR HER AND REPEAT MOST OF HER TALKING APPOINTS FOR HER WORD FOR WORD!?! THEY DONT CHANGE,,ALWAYS SAME OLD,,SAME OLD,,WITH A NASTY ATTACK THROWN IN FOR GOOD MEASURE!?! ROMNY GOT CLOBBERED AND NEWT HAS A LOT MORE BAGGAGE TO COME OUT,,IT ALREADY WAS UGLY,,BUT IT JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE PUT OUT THERE. WAKE UP PEOPLE,,WE WANT TO WIN,,AND DO SO WITH A CANDIDATE THAT BELIEVES WHAT WE DO,,A TRUE CONSERVATIVE, AND NOT ASHAMED TO STEP FORWARD AND SAY IT,,THAT WOULD BE PERRY!!!! FOR OVER THE LAST YEAR WE HAVE ALL SCREAMED FOR A MAN LIKE HIM,,BUT FALSELY BELIEVED THAT IT WAS CHRISTIE,,NOW WE HAVE THE MAN THAT WE CALLED FOR AND HE IS BEING IGNORED BY MOST BECAUSE HE ISNT "SLICK"?? WE HAVE "SLICK" NOW,,,NOT A GOOD THING!!! I LOVE THAT HE WANTS TO MAKE CONGRESS A PART TIME JOB!!! GET THEM OUT OF WASHINGTON DC AND BACK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM!!! WORKS IN TEXAS AND WILL WORK IN THE FEDERAL GOVT TOO!!!
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A part-time Congress would also be getting a big cut in pay which would require them to hold down anoter job.

Working two part-time jobs is somethin that a lot of folks are having to do right now.

Perhaps havingt live on less income just migt teach those bozos something about the real trut of our country right now.

Unfortunately since all of those jokies have political connections, their buddies would be certain to set up good jobs for them with ample pay to tide them over those rough spots.

If it possible to even consider, this would promote MORE corruption in our government, not less.


i figure anyone that spends millions (or in O's case, a billion) to get a job that won't pay anywhere near that should not get hired at all. make em "public servants". make it a 'privilege' to work in congress. no benefits as they have now. a bare necessity for housing and food with some clothing allotments. no retirement/pensions/health care at tax payers expense.

you know on re reading that i do believe i will see JC the second time around first.


WELL, THE TWO FRONT RUNNERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE "PRIVILEGED CLASS" AND THERE IS NOTHING NEW WITH EITHER OF THEM SO,,,WAKE UP AMERICA,,,WE PRAYED FOR AN HONEST MAN ,,ONE WHO DID NOT 'CRAVE" THAT PRESIDENCY!! WE HAVE ONE RUNNING,,PERRY!! HE CAN WIN THIS,,SLICK TONGUED OR NOT,,,HIS IDEAS ARE ALL GOOD,,HE HAS BEEN QUIETLY FIGHTING THE FEDERAL GOVT INTERFERRING IN HIS STATE FOR OVER A DECADE...SORRY YOU ALL WANTED CHRISTIE,,BUT CHRISTIE WAS NOT "CALLED",,PERRY WAS. TRUST THIS MAN,,IF ANY GENERIC CANDIDATE CAN BEAT OBAMA THEN WHY THE HECK DO YOU ALL THINK THAT PERRY CANT?? THE REPUBS ARE PLAYING RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF THE DEMS,,,EVERYONE OF THOSE DEBATES HAVE BEEN HOSTILE OR JUST GAVE PERRY NO TIME. REALLY PUT SOME THINKING INTO THIS,,,THE DEMS ARE "TELLING US" WHO CAN AND WHO CANNOT BEAT OBAMA,,DO YOU TRUST THAT??? GET REAL HERE,,UNITE,,UNITE BEHIND SOMEONE IS AS CLOSE TO A "REGULAR PERSON AS POSSIBLE,,THAT WOULD BE PERRY!!! DID YOU NOT MEAN ALL THAT YOU SAID FOR THE LAST YEAR,,JUST BECAUSE THE ONE CHOSEN WASNT THE ONE NAMED CHRISTIE??? CHRISTIE IS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE BUT THAT IS AS FAR AS HIS CONSERVATIVENESS GOES. WE WANT A TRUE CONSERVATIVE!!!
4petasake
#5 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:11:31 PM
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MORE........
Perry is true to Texas; also the John Birch Society. Newt---what can I say except that I lived in beautiful Georgia for 26 years and know that he only loves himself, he is a fake,not even good enough to run for President. Please don't be fooled. I have turned off the tv every time some politician has an add. We are tired of the lies--I hate politicians that put an ad out stating the other runner is or has done something. Enquire magazine all over. All the millions upon millions of dollars spent on the 2012 campaign could feed a lot of people. I am old as dirt and have seen and experienced almost everything. I have noticed that any President that wants to help the American People (middle class and poor) is not acceptable to corporations, lobbyists, and dishonest congress. John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy suffered the conquenses when they did everything to help the poor and the blacks. Think about it. We live in a complete dishonest country that has honest hardworking people. Greed and Power has it all to move to China. I could go on and on, but I am watching the Green Bay Packers Game right now.


given one out of the three top (O<Perry,Newt) have to say Perry. and i STILL dislike politicians. happy


couldn't resist



DOES ANYONE OUT THERE DISAGREE THAT WE WOULD RATHER THE WHOLE UNITED STATES WERE GROWING AS TEXAS IS?? THE ECONOMY IS GOO,,JOBS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE ILLEGALS ARE BEING STOPPED AND SENT BACK!! IF YOU ARE ILLEGAL IN TEXAS YOU CAN NOT GET A DRIVERS LICENSE ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE MUST SHOW THIER BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN ORDER TO DRIVE!!! IT IS NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR ANY ILLEGALS THATS WHY THEY DONT HAVE MANY!!! THE HISPANICS YOU MEET IN TEXAS ARE LEGAL CITIZENS OR THEY ARE PUT OUT!!! PERRY IS NOT ILLEGAL FRIENDLY,,KID FRIENDLY YEAH,,BUT ONLY IF THEY WERE RAISED THEIR,,AND HAD NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. HIS LOW PROFILE HAS KEPT HIM UNDER THE RADAR OF OBAMA AND THE ATTN GENERAL,,,,SO THAT HE COULD AVOID THE PITFALLS OF ARIZONA AND LAWSUITS BUT THE MAN IS HONEST AND WORTHY OF THE PRESIDENCY!!! NEWT AND ROMNEY ARE NOT,,,THEY "CRAVE IT" AND IT WOULD SEEN SO DOES BACHMAN. PERRY JUST WANTS TO RETURN AMERICA TO AMERICANS,,AND KEEP THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS,,MAKE JOBS,,AND BRING AMERICA BACK TO WHAT IT ONCE WAS!! IF HE HAD EVER PLANNED OR CRAVED THE PRESIDENCY,,HE WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT FRONT AND CENTER A LONG TIME AGO, BUT HE WASNT,,IT WASNT A "GOAL" FOR HIM.
4petasake
#6 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:24:50 PM
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JMO:
"Perry is true to Texas; also the John Birch Society" If this is true he's off my list. Besides all his boo boo's he doesn't seem terribly intelligent to me.

Newt scares me and I am not sure why so he is also crossed off.

SANTORUM was never on my list he's too unknown.

I liked what whats his face had to say.

All in all I am still for you know who but she will only take votes from another candidate enough to weaken their position not enough to get her hired.
4petasake
#7 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:27:55 PM
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ON ANOTHER NOTE THE PRES. LOOKS GREENISH PAIL PALE? ON '60 MINUTES' TONIGHT.
pgculater
#8 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 2:29:46 PM
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4peta - #6."Perry is true to Texas; also the John Birch Society". Sounds like you don't like the John Birch Society. I used to think they were bad people, back when I was a liberal. I didn't know anything about them - just that they were bad, bad, bad, 'cuz all my liberal friends said so. In later years, I caught one of them sneaking into a gun show to sell copies of the Constitution, of all things! Then, last year, I visited their website once, so among my old liberal buddies, that would qualify me as "The" expert on the JBS. They don't seem to me to be bad people, just conservatives who have been successfully demonized by the left - sort of like Sen. Joe McCarthy.
An association with the Birchers , if proven, and not just a liberal pre-emptive smear, wouldn't move Perry up or down on my list. What makes me nervous about Perry is his affection for the Trans-Texas Corridor, one leg of the super-duper highway from Mexico to Canada that is designed to further the North American Union. (See the U.S. Gov't's "Security and Prosperity Protocol" signed for the U.S. by Condoleeza Rice.) Goodbye, U.S. sovereignty.
4petasake
#9 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2011 5:42:09 PM
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pgculater wrote:
4peta - #6."Perry is true to Texas; also the John Birch Society". Sounds like you don't like the John Birch Society. I used to think they were bad people, back when I was a liberal. I didn't know anything about them - just that they were bad, bad, bad, 'cuz all my liberal friends said so. In later years, I caught one of them sneaking into a gun show to sell copies of the Constitution, of all things! Then, last year, I visited their website once, so among my old liberal buddies, that would qualify me as "The" expert on the JBS. They don't seem to me to be bad people, just conservatives who have been successfully demonized by the left - sort of like Sen. Joe McCarthy.
An association with the Birchers , if proven, and not just a liberal pre-emptive smear, wouldn't move Perry up or down on my list. What makes me nervous about Perry is his affection for the Trans-Texas Corridor, one leg of the super-duper highway from Mexico to Canada that is designed to further the North American Union. (See the U.S. Gov't's "Security and Prosperity Protocol" signed for the U.S. by Condoleeza Rice.) Goodbye, U.S. sovereignty.

Their representation of themselves on talk shows many years ago is why I feel about them the way I do. I never read anything about them. Right from the horses mouth as the saying goes.
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