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sodatart
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:59:21 PM
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Dsm, I remember about all the baby chickens in your den, I am sure you gots lots of tips, lol. Not to mention your green house, how about it??

Anyone else with tips on chicken raising we would like to hear your tips and tricks:)

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sodatart
#2 Posted : Friday, February 04, 2011 10:48:05 AM
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FROM GOOGLE:
ACQUIRING DAY OLD CHICKS

I find it best to get my birds as babies as I can hand raise
them and socialize them so that they are tame and manageable
as adult chickens. You can do this through several hatcheries that
will mail you day old chicks. Or you can go to your local feed and
grain store and often times they will have fluffy little chicks there in the spring. There are pros and cons either way.

A couple things to consider when ordering directly from a hatchery are that many (if not most) of them have 25 chick minimums. They do this primarily to ensure a higher survival rate as when you buy in bulk they keep each other warm in the shipping box so you are less likely to lose chicks to cold and draft (which is a major killer of day old chicks).

Also, another thing to consider is that if you are ordering just females there is a good likelihood that you will have a male or two or three in the bunch as sexing isn’t quite an exact science. If you do order from a hatchery that will sell in individual numbers (small amounts) of chicks, you are almost guaranteed an extra male or two in the box. They don’t charge you for the extra males, they just throw them in the box, again, to keep the box temperature up (males’ temperatures run a tad higher and they are more expendable so are used to help keep shipping temps up.) So either way you may have to find homes for your roosters or raise them for a couple months till they become a crowing nuisance to your neighbors then stew them.

Not to mention the issue of receiving your order. The hatcheries do their best to alert you to when the order is shipped and approximately when it will arrive, but nothing is exact. So you will get a call from your local post office stating that your “live shipment” is in and that you need to come pick it up IMMEDIATELY. So you have to drop whatever you’re doing and go pick up your chicks. When you pick them up from the post office you’ll want to open the box right there in front of a post office worker to have them witness any dead chicks (of which the hatchery will refund you your money). Be sure to have the postal worker write a statement about how many chicks were dead upon arrival if you hope to receive a refund. Just another unpleasant aspect to consider if you want to order hatchery direct.

If you are lucky enough to live near some feed and grain stores you will most likely have the luck of live chicks in the spring. The drawback to this is that you don’t have a wide choice in breeds, particularly if you are looking for heritage breeds. They usually get the most common breeds in; most often based on high egg yield. So you’ll see lots of White Leghorns, Rhode Island Reds, Barred Rocks and Buff Orpingtons. And there is nothing wrong with these breeds. If nothing else you will be guaranteed lots of large eggs on a very consistent basis. But I am more interested in helping keep the numbers of threatened breeds up where I can. And I am also interested in sweet, sociable chickens of which the White Leghorn and Rhode Island Reds do not particularly qualify.

Now, if you’re really nice and the store manager is in a good mood, you can do what I did and place an order to be shipped with the order your feed store puts in. They order from the same hatcheries that we would, but are just able to do it in larger numbers. So ask when their next order is and if you can put in an order for specific chicks. My local feed store, Double S Feed in El Cajon, CA, was more than happy to accommodate. That way no order minimums, the feed store receives the order so no running around to the post office, they’ll take care of any refunds for any unfortunate DOAs, and best of all they’ll stabilize the chicks (water, feed and warm them up) before sending them home with you so you don’t have to keep a vigil over them when you first bring them home. The only drawback to this method of acquiring your chicks is that it may cost you a couple dollars more per chick than if you ordered direct, but really in the end I think it’s worth it. And I don’t mind supporting my local feed stores.

RECEIVING DAY OLD CHICKS

Heat: You will want to prepare for the arrival of your chicks the day before they get there. Preheat your brooder the night before with the heat lamp 18 inches above brooder keeping it at a toasty 95°F.

Bedding: Be sure to have your brooder well bedded. This is good for comfort and warmth. But for the first week make sure to put thick paper towels on top of 2-3 inches of your bedding of choice (I use pine shavings.) This keeps them from eating the bedding. Do not use newspaper.

Feed: Only feed your new chicks chick starter crumble (do NOT feed them layer ration as the high calcium content can seriously damage their kidneys.) Feed them within 3-5 hours after they had their first drink (if you received them yourself from the post office, otherwise offer feed straight away.) Be sure to sprinkle the chick starter on the paper towels. This will help them find feed and learn to peck. Also have it available for them in a shallow lid or tray.

Water: When you first put your chicks into their new home, be sure to dip each chick’s beak into the water source and make sure it swallows before releasing. If you received your chicks from the post office rather than the feed store having stabilized the little guys for you, you will want to mix heaping cup of sugar per quart of water and give this to them for the first 3-4 days until they seem perky. It helps give them a boost extra energy until they are feeding normally.

Light: When they first arrive keep the brooder lit for the first 48 hours. This helps them orient themselves to find their feed and water.

Heat: From here you’ll raise the lamp 3 inches every week for the next 6 weeks (reducing the temperature approximately 5°F each week until the brooder temperature is the same as room temperature.) These are just rough guidelines. Let your chicks tell you by observing them. They cannot regulate their heat well so chill easily, hence the heat lamp. But at the same time you don’t want to cook them alive. Cold chicks huddle together peeping loudly – need more heat, closer lamp. Hot chicks pant and really spread out to the edge of the brooder trying to escape the heat source – less heat, raise lamp or change to a lower wattage bulb. Happy contented chicks are warm and cozy, wandering freely about the brooder, emitting musical sounds of contentment. They sleep peacefully side-by-side.

Light: Light affects the growth rate of chicks so never keep them in the dark. After the first two days, if your brooder gets natural sunlight you can turn the lights off. Even if your light is also your heat source, you’ll want to turn it off for a ½ hour each day (preferably not during the coolest hours of the day) so the chicks will learn to not panic in the dark.

Bedding: Do not use newspaper or other smooth paper as it will be too slick to walk on and will cause leg injuries. Change the paper toweling as often as necessary to keep it clean (at least once a day, more if possible). You’ll only need this for 4-5 days, then you can remove the paper towels. Be sure to stir up the shavings at least once a day to keep it from packing down. I prefer to use pine shavings as you can buy them in BIG bags (horse bedding) so it lasts longer and is cheaper, very absorbent, and it’s light and fluffy for them to cuddle in to sleep. But you can use other materials such as peat moss, crushed corncobs, crushed cane, shredded hemp, vermiculite. Do NOT use hardwoods such as cedar. Straw for bedding is difficult for them to walk on. As the chicks soil the bedding, be sure to sprinkle a little fresh bedding over it to keep it clean, fluffy and absorbent. Remove & replace any moist bedding that develops around waterers since damp bedding quickly turns moldy causing pneumonia.

Feed: When the chicks start vigorously scratching at their feed, dumping out of the tray or shoe box lid in which you put it, switch them to a proper chick feeder, available from your local feed stores or poultry supply websites.


Sanitation and hygiene are of the utmost importance. It may not be in your romantic idea of “farming”, but it really is what separates the humane poultry enthusiast from the crack-pot intensive battery farms. I would never want to buy my eggs from somewhere where they allow the hens to wallow in their own muck. Too many diseases or respiratory issues can be caught by chickens or possibly passed on to the eggs either inside the shell or coating the outside of the shell. Unnecessarily so when just an hour or so a week can keep them happy and healthy. I spend about 20 minutes twice a week keeping my coop/run/yard clean. It’s all about cleaning poo. At the same time I wash and rinse their waterers and fill their feeders. Apart from that I spend about 5 minutes each day picking up or spraying down poo in the yard. I no long become obsessed over it as the fact is chickens poop – and poop a lot! But if you make a bit of effort to pick-up the obvious stuff, you’ll help to keep a healthy balance in your yard. When people come over to see our chickens they are surprised that is doesn’t smell of chickens and that there are few flies.

Don’t forget to spend a few minutes every couple weeks doing a physical inspection of each chicken. Pick them up and really check them over, going through feathers, checking for any skin conditions, mites, lice, wounds, cuts, pecking wounds, scrapes, missing feathers. Check the vents; look closely for tiny critters. Even if I don’t see any mites or lice I still periodically dust the girls with Sevin dust. If you notice one of your chickens bleeding, even if just from an innocent nick on the comb, try to clean it up and stop the bleeding (styptic powder) or isolate them from the rest of the flock till you can remedy the situation. A bit of shiny blood will attract the other chickens to peck at the injured bird, making the situation much worse.

NICE SETUP, WISH I WOULD HAVE HAD THIS. MY LAST CHICKEN WENT WALKING DOWN THE STREET, NEVER SAW HER AGAIN. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I HAD WITH MY CHICKENS IS THAT THEY FLEW AND I DIDN'T HAVE A HEN HOUSE.
sodatart
#3 Posted : Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58:09 AM
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sodatart
#4 Posted : Friday, February 04, 2011 11:02:24 AM
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I MUST SAY I LIKE THE A FRAME THE BEST:)

parannoyed
#5 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:39:21 PM
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I just ordered 26 new chicks since my neighbors dog ate one. My 2 cents are this: keep them warm, give them room, feed and water them well, and make sure you keep their asses clean. Thats about it for chicks.
sodatart
#6 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 5:05:06 AM
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QUOTE SKPTK:
Soda tart...
I enjoy reading your posts. In this one, I think you meant "pique", but check the dictionary to be sure.
My main interest at the moment is gardening. I have already started planting the seeds that will be transplanted when Spring gets here.
Secondly (but currently more urgent) are the 100 baby chicks that arrived at the beginning of January.
Both interests are in the service of my not-quite-nascent business
PharmerPhilDelivers.com (q.v.)
Wanna take a swing at it?
Skptk

PK, SEE PARANNOYED'S POST ABOVE THIS ONE:)
parannoyed
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:28:03 PM
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100 chicks!?! wow... you are brave.haha Just make sure you keep the but paste wiped off them, and make sure they stay in the 80-90F range for heat. If they huddle together put the light lower so they can get under it to keep warm, but make sure they have room to get out of the heat if they want to also. Keep the feed and grit to them and they'll be fine. If they start sneezing or anything, I put a little bit of fresh garlic in the water to help their immune system strong. They'll feather out rather quickly, 8 weeks or so, after that they are easy to raise up.
pgculater
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 6:39:11 PM
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Wow, Soda Tart, when you take a swing, you go for the fences!
Some thoughts: "I like the A-frame best". An interesting variation is the "Chicken Ark" of British origin, I think. An A-frame on wheels, the
upper part is living quarters with a hatch for egg-snatching.
"Adjust the heat lamp". I was worried that the Jan. sub-zero temps would overwhelm a heat lamp in the unheated barn, so I built a "chix grobox"- 3 floors, ea. 32"x 48", a chase on the sides and bottom for air and heat circulation, 3 100W lites (not enough for heat), a thermostically controlled outlet powering a milkhouse heater (to make up the difference), a computer muffin fan to blow it all around, and all double wrapped in scrap 3/4" styrofoam insulation. It seems to work, but considering the stakes (100 dead chicks + $hundreds to bring them to this point), I do a lot of monitoring.
"Butt paste" Only saw one, and she successfully hid herself in the crowd. No subsequent corpses, so I guess it fixed itself.
At this point, I have sorted the straight run herd by comb size, and it looks like 62 girls and 38 boys. Since I was expecting 50/50, looks like I'm ahead of the game.
Thanks to all who so kindly offered advice.
Peace...
Skptk
sodatart
#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:00:05 AM
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Years ago we had young chickens and we had to move so it was decided? that we had to kill them as we couldn't take them with us. So they were killed (not by me) and cooked and attempted to eat. I know I couldn't eat any. They were stringy and tough and I spit it out I can't remember if anyone else felt the same although I think probably my girls couldn't eat them either. I still shudder at the memory. Why we didn't sell them I have no idea, maybe we didn't have the time before the move? YUCK!
pgculater
#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:07:27 AM
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sodatart wrote:
Years ago we had young chickens and we had to move so it was decided? that we had to kill them as we couldn't take them with us. So they were killed (not by me) and cooked and attempted to eat. I know I couldn't eat any. They were stringy and tough and I spit it out I can't remember if anyone else felt the same although I think probably my girls couldn't eat them either. I still shudder at the memory. Why we didn't sell them I have no idea, maybe we didn't have the time before the move? YUCK!


Yah! Double yuck. It's hard enough watching these girls & boys croak from natural causes. (Four roosters smothered under a pile-on in the holding bin while I was cleaning their section of the grobox last week.
This morning a hen - don't know why - maybe too hot? The mild weather
might have made the 3 100w bulbs more than sufficient for heat. It was
85F in there last night, & the poor critters were panting.) The herd is down to 95 and still 2 1/2 months to go before I see an egg.
sodatart
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 12:19:28 PM
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pgculater wrote:
sodatart wrote:
Years ago we had young chickens and we had to move so it was decided? that we had to kill them as we couldn't take them with us. So they were killed (not by me) and cooked and attempted to eat. I know I couldn't eat any. They were stringy and tough and I spit it out I can't remember if anyone else felt the same although I think probably my girls couldn't eat them either. I still shudder at the memory. Why we didn't sell them I have no idea, maybe we didn't have the time before the move? YUCK!


Yah! Double yuck. It's hard enough watching these girls & boys croak from natural causes. (Four roosters smothered under a pile-on in the holding bin while I was cleaning their section of the grobox last week.
This morning a hen - don't know why - maybe too hot? The mild weather
might have made the 3 100w bulbs more than sufficient for heat. It was
85F in there last night, & the poor critters were panting.) The herd is down to 95 and still 2 1/2 months to go before I see an egg.

Ohhh, I am so sorry, it is so hard to find them injured or dead. I am happy that you still have 95. Can they get out from under the heat if they need to? I have made so many mistakes with animals even though I had good intentions but we learn for the next time:)
sodatart
#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:37:24 AM
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Ok, get ready to laugh. In all my many years I have never thought of this. I was looking for a few hens to buy when I thought, why don't they sale and eat turkey eggs??? Why wouldn't you buy a female turkey and get and eat turkey eggs? What have I been missing all these years, boy does this one throw me??? Too weird!
Now start laughing!
pgculater
#13 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2011 6:25:25 PM
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Ha, ha, ha, ha.
It is a good question, though. The eggs would be bigger than jumbo.
Are the shells too hard to crack?
sodatart
#14 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2011 10:30:03 PM
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pgculater wrote:
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
It is a good question, though. The eggs would be bigger than jumbo.
Are the shells too hard to crack?

I don't know, are they very hard? I have never seen on or even seen a baby turkey, have you? Nice to have someone posting I was giving up on you all:)
pgculater
#15 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2011 11:36:21 PM
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I've not seen turkey eggs, either, but I found some duck eggs once, and they were harder than chicken eggs. Maybe turkeys don't lay every day or two or few, and so would require too much feed to justify the value of the egg.
sodatart
#16 Posted : Saturday, April 09, 2011 1:17:06 AM
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I have had ducks and you are right they are very hard shelled.

FROM GOOGLE:

A turkey is a large North American bird (Meleagris gallopavo) that displays or features a brownish covering of feathers and a bare wattled head and neck. Most people domesticate this bird for food. Some people who have tasted turkey eggs can attest to the similarity of its taste to that of a chicken. Chicken eggs and turkey eggs differ from each other in terms of physical appearance. The latter is larger and heavier. It usually weighs around 75 to 100 grams or 3 to 4 ounces. Deep reddish brown pattern is visible on the shell of a turkey egg.

You may be wondering why turkey eggs are not sold in grocery stores. Although they are also edible and larger than chicken eggs, they can never be purchased there due to the fact that a turkey hen can only lay a total of 100 to 110 eggs within a 28-30 week period. Hence, a chicken hen can lay up to 300 eggs yearly. Thus, the limited amount is the main reason why turkey eggs are available at your local grocery stores.

If you do not let the hen hatch her poults naturally, you can do the hatching. However, there are essential points to consider when it comes to properly hatching fertile turkey eggs using an incubator. There are important steps to follow. First step is to set up your incubator at least 24 hours before putting the eggs in. The second step is to fill the lower channel with water which is essential to see to it that humidity is adequately provided. The third step involves placing two thermometers in the incubator. You must see to it that these thermometers are elevated to half of the height of the turkey eggs (typically about 1 inch).

The fourth step is to attach a fabric extension to the bulb of one thermometer and see to it that the opposite end is in the water channel underneath. Appropriate temperature must also be observed. You ought to maintain a stable temperature at or around 37 degrees Celsius. On the other hand, the wet- bulb temperature must be stable between 29 and 37.5 degrees Celsius. Another important step you must take is to put a mark on the eggs using an ordinary pencil. You just need to mark an "x" on one side and "o" on the other. This must be done when the eggs are laying flat on their sides. This will facilitate your task of turning them exactly 180 degrees. You must avoid writing materials that have harmful chemicals which may penetrate through the shell and harm the turkey.

The next step is to place the eggs gently into the incubator. You should have them with similar letter facing up. To prevent the turkey from sticking to the shell inside, you need to turn the eggs three to five times every 24 hours for 25 days. When it has reached the 25th day, you need to stop turning the eggs. On the 28th day, the eggs will hatch. When the baby turkeys hatch out, they tend to roll over others' eggs. In this case, you must use the turning marks on the shell to maintain the right position of the eggs.

The hatching process is absolutely wearisome yet so fun. It must also be painstakingly done. Turkey eggs are good as food and even as a business capital. If you are planning to buy fertile eggs, HatchingEggs.net is the right place for you. This website offers a large selection of fertile eggs for you and you can avail of them at low prices.

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sodatart
#17 Posted : Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:24:33 PM
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Your chicks are looking healthy and happy, I visited your site..
You might want to write, it might also be lucrative. I read about pharmer Phil and it was quite funny!:O)
4petasake
#18 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:17:20 PM
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How are the chicks doing, PG??
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#19 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:46:14 PM
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Should've got the heat lamps, I've been wanting some chickens, They eat alot of pesky bugs and help a garden.
pgculater
#20 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:49:09 PM
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4petasake #18 - My chicks are doing pretty well, and thanks for asking. I probably shouldn't
call them chicks anymore. They're getting way too big for the brooder box, especially the Ameraucanas. I've been using the last several days' nice weather to try to build an addition to the cinderblock chicken coop. It's a frame addition, solar-powered, eventually.
We have a couple of solar panels from a domestic hot water system we put on our house back in the '80s. ("You never know when you're going to need something like that" is the junk saver's standard excuse, but sometimes it pans out). One solar panel, the storage tank, an old car radiator, and some hoses, and voila! So far, I have actually had to spend money on 2x4s and fasteners; everything else (I think) is recycled stuff - not to save the planet. Just 'cuz I'm
irredeemably cheap.
Had to stop working on it today 'til maybe Monday or Tuesday, because an arctic front waltzed in overnight. It went from 60deg yesterday to 24deg today.
I'll try to post some pix when it's further along.
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