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Alright we have our first minority president! He is tech. savy, carismatic, likeable, and promises the U.S. everything that the polls said we wanted to hear. Who cares what his beliefs are or what he stands for? He is the first minority president showing the rest of the world that we as a nation has evolved, and we as a people can acomplish anything with our new way of thinking.
Hey, wait a minute. Did I just hear the president right? That we the people are stupid and ignorant and that he is The Commander and Chief of the U.S. and it doesn't matter what we the people think? Nah I couldn't have heard that from our president, I must have dozzed off or something.
Cmon are you tring to tell me that our President is appointing new Czars and paying them over a hundred thousand a year. What? They might be Muslim and be part of a conspiracy to make the U.S. a third world country. Man I don't know what your on, but that can't be the truth.
Excuse me? The president is tring to bypass congress and delivery his own agenda without the consent of the people and is also secreatly supporting and aiding the conflicts in other countries to over throw their goverments with the help of organized unions. Who is this group called the Muslim Brotherhood that you keep referring to and what do they stand for. WHAT? In order for them to go be with their God they have to kill someone! I have never heard of such a thing and really think that your full of --it!
When this president was elected I gave him the benefit of the doubt and was willing to give him a chance. But with the Muslim Brotherhood taking charge of most of the countries that has just happened to be over throwen during his term as president it has made me really begin to think what lays instore for the U.S. in the future.
We as a nation have been downgraded once (which is the first time ever) and are looking at a second downgrade before the end of his term. It has been proven to me that our president has strong muslim ties and doesn't have the best interest of our great country even on his agenda.
We have the most unemployed, homeless, deprived, american citizens in our history! The Goverment just doesn't tell us of the ones that have exhausted all their benefits and haven't counted them in the last few unemployed data figures. But our president and democrats have unveiled a new strategy for the upcoming election. Of course I have explained how this will be the dirtest election EVER with the smear tactics, but along with being unemployed you can receive a cell phone from our goverment that only cost about a dollar to five dollars per month with unlimted usage. This is the people that the president and democrats are targeting for the next election.
He has dumped the working American for the unemployed. I think that is communisim at its best. Our President wants to reward the unemployed and lazy people to further his agenda to Destroy America. I do not mind helping people at all. But as large as this country is and with all the infrastructure isn't there something they can do to kinda offset the burden of this astronomic drain on the Working People? Like pick up trash, do some sort of community service for the things that they are receiving from the Working People? I was visiting with a trusted friend last nite and was informed that we soon will have hundreds of Drone Missles flying the friendly skies of America. If that happens is it an attack on America by it's own goverment? What will happen to our Vetrans who will experience a major setback. Can you imagine the terror and images that they will have to Relive in a country they have sucessfully defended for years? Their Family has seen a possibly a scaled flash from time to time, but usually in a nightmare not as a daily routine.
At the least I see it as an intimidation ploy by them. Are the rumors we have all heard that this president will win the next election regardless of the measures he has to take. Is he insighting a war here so there will not be an election due to executive power clause in our constitution.
Our president has used the executive power on lesser things so why not just convince people that we are in a war within our borders and use it to keep his job as he will not listen to anyone else anyway. Will we become the next nation to fall to the muslim brotherhood under his rein? Is the gate fixing to Close (catching pigs)on the people of the U.S. because we have become to trusting and relient on an enity that we pay for?
I Pray To God that I am very wrong but it is like someone has already rewritten the future of American and We The People Have Become The Pigs.
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I have been telling people that for three years and you are the first person to say the same.
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gentlegiant wrote: Alright we have our first minority president! He is tech. savy, carismatic, likeable, and promises the U.S. everything that the polls said we wanted to hear. Who cares what his beliefs are or what he stands for? He is the first minority president showing the rest of the world that we as a nation has evolved, and we as a people can acomplish anything with our new way of thinking.
Hey, wait a minute. Did I just hear the president right? That we the people are stupid and ignorant and that he is The Commander and Chief of the U.S. and it doesn't matter what we the people think? Nah I couldn't have heard that from our president, I must have dozzed off or something.
Cmon are you tring to tell me that our President is appointing new Czars and paying them over a hundred thousand a year. What? They might be Muslim and be part of a conspiracy to make the U.S. a third world country. Man I don't know what your on, but that can't be the truth.
Excuse me? The president is tring to bypass congress and delivery his own agenda without the consent of the people and is also secreatly supporting and aiding the conflicts in other countries to over throw their goverments with the help of organized unions. Who is this group called the Muslim Brotherhood that you keep referring to and what do they stand for. WHAT? In order for them to go be with their God they have to kill someone! I have never heard of such a thing and really think that your full of --it!
When this president was elected I gave him the benefit of the doubt and was willing to give him a chance. But with the Muslim Brotherhood taking charge of most of the countries that has just happened to be over throwen during his term as president it has made me really begin to think what lays instore for the U.S. in the future.
We as a nation have been downgraded once (which is the first time ever) and are looking at a second downgrade before the end of his term. It has been proven to me that our president has strong muslim ties and doesn't have the best interest of our great country even on his agenda.
We have the most unemployed, homeless, deprived, american citizens in our history! The Goverment just doesn't tell us of the ones that have exhausted all their benefits and haven't counted them in the last few unemployed data figures. But our president and democrats have unveiled a new strategy for the upcoming election. Of course I have explained how this will be the dirtest election EVER with the smear tactics, but along with being unemployed you can receive a cell phone from our goverment that only cost about a dollar to five dollars per month with unlimted usage. This is the people that the president and democrats are targeting for the next election.
He has dumped the working American for the unemployed. I think that is communisim at its best. Our President wants to reward the unemployed and lazy people to further his agenda to Destroy America. I do not mind helping people at all. But as large as this country is and with all the infrastructure isn't there something they can do to kinda offset the burden of this astronomic drain on the Working People? Like pick up trash, do some sort of community service for the things that they are receiving from the Working People? I was visiting with a trusted friend last nite and was informed that we soon will have hundreds of Drone Missles flying the friendly skies of America. If that happens is it an attack on America by it's own goverment? What will happen to our Vetrans who will experience a major setback. Can you imagine the terror and images that they will have to Relive in a country they have sucessfully defended for years? Their Family has seen a possibly a scaled flash from time to time, but usually in a nightmare not as a daily routine.
At the least I see it as an intimidation ploy by them. Are the rumors we have all heard that this president will win the next election regardless of the measures he has to take. Is he insighting a war here so there will not be an election due to executive power clause in our constitution.
Our president has used the executive power on lesser things so why not just convince people that we are in a war within our borders and use it to keep his job as he will not listen to anyone else anyway. Will we become the next nation to fall to the muslim brotherhood under his rein? Is the gate fixing to Close (catching pigs)on the people of the U.S. because we have become to trusting and relient on an enity that we pay for?
I Pray To God that I am very wrong but it is like someone has already rewritten the future of American and We The People Have Become The Pigs.
Come on now, he wouldn't be in office if God hadn't allowed it or put him there. Only God can write the future! No matter what God is in control! We don't know what God has in mind with all of this but we do know the end don't we?
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I am very aware of the signs of the end of time. We here of wars and rumors of war, we have families divided, we have natural disasters everywhere, and in my humble little home we have been watching alot of people that has been going to their final home. If you can explain this to me I'd love to hear it. I am starting to think our president is a fox disguised as a lamb. Only God knows for sure!
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Doesn't sound like you need anything explained. As far as O you and pg's posts have always leaned toward him being a fox:) It is not for me to say, I accept what he does if it follows Gods guidelines for leaders. If he sways from those guidelines than we have a right to scream. I still say that The woman is the best we have for a coming pres. I know that they will not allow it but shes the only one worth a hill of beans if we want a Christian leader. How come you don't reply to the posts so everyone can see your opinion? I don't like that my posts are everywhere with no one responding.
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How is O following God when he will not support Gods people in their fight for Christanity in the holy land? We have a war going on against christians with thousands being murdered. Is this within Gods guidelines? How is O taking care of business when he wants to remove "In God We Trust" from our money when this is what our nation was founded on and for? Or build a mosque at ground zero that signifies a victory over that country to Muslims.
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gentlegiant wrote:How is O following God when he will not support Gods people in their fight for Christanity in the holy land? We have a war going on against christians with thousands being murdered. Is this within Gods guidelines? How is O taking care of business when he wants to remove "In God We Trust" from our money when this is what our nation was founded on and for? Or build a mosque at ground zero that signifies a victory over that country to Muslims. I might agree with some of what you say but Christians have been murdered fighting for Christianity since Jesus' time, you can't put that on O. Sounds to me like he is concerned about who he needs to keep from offending most. Especially since he must walk on tippy toes if he plans to run again, which he does. As to your post about someone's opinion of O, that is just another mans opinion just like you or I we all have one:) I have to make up my own mind, allowing anothers opinion to influence me is not my cup of tea. Show me some proof then I will consider that persons opinion of some significance. Facts facts facts.I am not sure what is accomplished by bad mouthing O, I am not sure how talking about everyones discontent will change anything? I always wonder what will be gained when people go on a rampage on these forums about subjects, how will that change anything. Do they believe that their rantings will make any difference in the outcome? Actions actions actions. Fire your congressman, etc. Vote someone else in next time, etc. That's the kind of action we need. I am not upset or pointing fingers if that is what my post looks like, I am just saying....:O)
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Much more significant for me is "what can we as peons to make a difference in this mess"? The one thing we can do is change the pres. and congress during voting time. My aught is with the banks and Wall street. I want to hurt them, so what do we do? I believe that the majority of the country are the little people, what if the little people take all their money out of the banks? What if they take all their money out of stocks and bonds? Damage would be done but what of the repercussions? If they hadn't been bailed out would the country have fallen as they said? I do know that if a bank is hurt bad enough they can request a payoff of a mortgage without cause. As far as that goes they can ask for an immediate payoff of any mortgage for no good reason other than they want the mortgage paid off. I think that is a way for them to strike out if we go to far with them. How many people can get up the money to pay their mortgage off if their holder demands it? Fortunately the CU's are still available but with the value of the homes being their lowest in history there is no guarantee that they would refi. So how can we act rather than just talk? What can you and I do to bring them down for what they have done to our country? Not the pres. or other representatives, we have answers for them as I said but the banks and wall street?? I also think if the rich really want to help then building a conglomerate that would be US wide that would provide a zillion jobs. Numerous Jobs in every state would be needed for this huge company that the rich would put together.... May I have opinions please, I am not bright child when it comes to politics or economics so am I just blowing wind here?
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I think your on the right track when it comes to being involved in the elections and firing the ones that have not listened to their voters. As far as the banks go about all we can do is pinch every penny we have untill it screams, and pay off our debts as quickly as possible. You can cut your mortage by about half (depending on the length and design of the loan) by making your first full payment followed a half payment biweekly from then on. This reduces the interest made on the loans by banks.
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gentlegiant wrote:I think your on the right track when it comes to being involved in the elections and firing the ones that have not listened to their voters. As far as the banks go about all we can do is pinch every penny we have until it screams, and pay off our debts as quickly as possible. You can cut your mortgage by about half (depending on the length and design of the loan) by making your first full payment followed a half payment biweekly from then on. This reduces the interest made on the loans by banks. We can also transfer our accounts other than mortgages to CU's. Many are doing that now and it is hurting them I just don't know how much. Last count 450,000 had opened CU accounts but that includes all possible reasons to go to the CU including the transfers from banks.
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4peta:"Christians have been murdered...you can't put that on O". Well, we can't put the murders that took place before 2009 on O, but ever since his Middleast "apology" tour, he has been more sympathetic to radical Muslims than to Christians or Jews. You would think that his experience growing up as a Muslim in Indonesia would have familiarized him with the Arab saying that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Apparently not. He came kind of late to the "Arab Spring" thing, at first ignoring the toppling of the Tunisian gov't (our ally against extremist Islam), then first supporting Egypt's Mubarak (our ally against extr. Isl.) before turning on him and supporting the "democratic occupy Tahrir" movement whose success in bringing down Mubarak cleared the field for the Muslim Brotherhood. Then Libya's Al-Qaida, allied with other extremist Islamists, starts shooting up Benghazi; the Big O not only sides with the worse guys, he sells them arms and brings in NATO to enable a ragtag rebellion which was almost over to turn into a full-blown civil war, which the worse guys have now won. On to Yemen, where Saleh had been (ineffectively) working against Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, and permitting the US to help with drone strikes against the worse guys (remember al-Awlaki, the American Muslim "cleric" who coached Nidal Hassan, then fled to Yemen, where he coached the Detroit underwear bomber). The Big O, directly and through pressure on the Saudis, worked to get Saleh to step down in favor of the worse guys. Then to the Gulf Emirates, where Iran was trying, with some success, to foment a Shi'ite rebellion against the Sunni emirs. The Big O sent Hillary to urge the emirs to give in to the Shi'ites, but the emirs, thank God, are not so stupid as O seems to think. Now Syria. And Obama seems to be prepping for a repeat of the Libyan campaign. How long do you think Syria's Christian community, minority that it is, will last once the Muslim Brotherhood takes over? In case after case, the Big O sided with our enemies against their enemies, who could have been, or were, our "friends". In case after case, dear 4peta, he has sided with the people who want to kill or enslave YOU. How can the fact that he shares some liberal values be sufficient to overcome that?
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pgculater wrote: 4peta:"Christians have been murdered...you can't put that on O". Well, we can't put the murders that took place before 2009 on O, but ever since his Middleast "apology" tour, he has been more sympathetic to radical Muslims than to Christians or Jews. You would think that his experience growing up as a Muslim in Indonesia would have familiarized him with the Arab saying that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Apparently not. He came kind of late to the "Arab Spring" thing, at first ignoring the toppling of the Tunisian gov't (our ally against extremist Islam), then first supporting Egypt's Mubarak (our ally against extr. Isl.) before turning on him and supporting the "democratic occupy Tahrir" movement whose success in bringing down Mubarak cleared the field for the Muslim Brotherhood. Then Libya's Al-Qaida, allied with other extremist Islamists, starts shooting up Benghazi; the Big O not only sides with the worse guys, he sells them arms and brings in NATO to enable a ragtag rebellion which was almost over to turn into a full-blown civil war, which the worse guys have now won. On to Yemen, where Saleh had been (ineffectively) working against Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, and permitting the US to help with drone strikes against the worse guys (remember al-Awlaki, the American Muslim "cleric" who coached Nidal Hassan, then fled to Yemen, where he coached the Detroit underwear bomber). The Big O, directly and through pressure on the Saudis, worked to get Saleh to step down in favor of the worse guys. Then to the Gulf Emirates, where Iran was trying, with some success, to foment a Shi'ite rebellion against the Sunni emirs. The Big O sent Hillary to urge the emirs to give in to the Shi'ites, but the emirs, thank God, are not so stupid as O seems to think. Now Syria. And Obama seems to be prepping for a repeat of the Libyan campaign. How long do you think Syria's Christian community, minority that it is, will last once the Muslim Brotherhood takes over? In case after case, the Big O sided with our enemies against their enemies, who could have been, or were, our "friends". In case after case, dear 4peta, he has sided with the people who want to kill or enslave YOU. How can the fact that he shares some liberal values be sufficient to overcome that?
Dear PG, does this post contain factual truth or your truth? I've heard a lot of poison about 'O' but some of this hasn't been used previously and believe me when I say they jump on anything they can, the haters, even lies to embellish their hate against 'O'.
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4petasake - "Does this post contain factual truth or your truth". I read the news, I watch the TV news, and I study the analyses - and I remember. Last January, as the "Arab Spring" phenomenon was spreading to Cairo's Tahrir Square, I discussed the situation with a friend of mine, who was of the opinion that democracy was breaking out in Egypt. I disagreed and suggested that the better-organized Muslim Brotherhood would take advantage of the disruption and come out on top. A day or two ago, the AP World News headline in the TUSA "Welcome Subscriber" page (Home page?) advised that the "Islamists" (read MB and their allies) had achieved a resounding majority in the elections for the lower house of the Egyptian parliament. I do not hate Obama. I hate many of his policies, and agree with a few. It is not spreading poison to state the truth (The truth - not my truth.) I mostly operate from memory, but I do save a lot of stuff to my computer. If you question any of "my" facts, ask me for a link, but be specific about which fact you are questioning. The organization of my filing system keeps evolving, so it may take some digging to come up with a link. Two links means twice as much digging. If you ask for more than three, I'll probably just say no.
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pgculater wrote:4petasake - "Does this post contain factual truth or your truth". I read the news, I watch the TV news, and I study the analyses - and I remember. Last January, as the "Arab Spring" phenomenon was spreading to Cairo's Tahrir Square, I discussed the situation with a friend of mine, who was of the opinion that democracy was breaking out in Egypt. I disagreed and suggested that the better-organized Muslim Brotherhood would take advantage of the disruption and come out on top. A day or two ago, the AP World News headline in the TUSA "Welcome Subscriber" page (Home page?) advised that the "Islamists" (read MB and their allies) had achieved a resounding majority in the elections for the lower house of the Egyptian parliament. I do not hate Obama. I hate many of his policies, and agree with a few. It is not spreading poison to state the truth (The truth - not my truth.) I mostly operate from memory, but I do save a lot of stuff to my computer. If you question any of "my" facts, ask me for a link, but be specific about which fact you are questioning. The organization of my filing system keeps evolving, so it may take some digging to come up with a link. Two links means twice as much digging. If you ask for more than three, I'll probably just say no. Thank you sir for the facts:O) No offense intended.
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Can anyone verify this?
I heard that the members in the United States senate passed another bill to strip us mushrooms of 6th Amendment rights, 93 to 7. Makes it easier for them to define you as a "terrorist" administratively and so strip you of rights in advance before any trial or other "red tape." Y'all are not paying attention. They will keep on doing this to you until you say NO in some way that will get clear through their muddled brains from one ear to the other.
Empires just have no room for statesmen with outdated virtues. They grow, rather, traitors and assassins aplenty.
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I didn't want to be the one to reply as my replies are all over the forum page:) The OTHER forum has nothing on it and believe me they would have jumped on it if it was true:)
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