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DEMOCRATS DEFEND SOCIAL SECURITY Options
gentlegiant
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:31:25 PM
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Joined: 8/1/2011
Posts: 190
Most of our people know little or nothing about the history of
Social Security, I think they need to know who started it and
what has happened over the years.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd. President, terms of office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945,

A Democrat who introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.

He Promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first
$1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program
would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year

4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent Trust
Fund, rather than into the General operating fund, and would only
be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program,
and no other Government program,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a
Social Security check every month and then finding that we are getting
taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government, to put away,
so you may be interested in the following:

Dwight David Eisenhower
34th. President, Republican,
Term Of Office: January 20, 1953 to January 20, 1961

If I recall correctly, 1958 is the first year that Congress, not
President Eisenhower, voted to remove funds from Social Security
and put it into the General Fund for Congress to spend.

If I recall correctly, it was a DEMOCRATICALLY controlled Congress.

From what I understand, Congress's logic at that time was that there was
so much more money in the Social Security Fund and that it would never
run out or be used up for the purpose it was intended or set aside for.

-------------WORSE STILL-----------

Lyndon Baines Johnson, 36th President,Democrat
Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 toJanuary 20, 1969

Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
Independent Trust Fund and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it?

Answer: It was Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat Term of Office:
November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969), and the Democratically controlled House and Senate.

--------------------READ ON -------------------------------------

Question: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security
(FICA) withholding? Answer: The Democratic Party.

-----------------------MOREOVER-------------------------------------


William Jefferson Clinton (Bill Clinton)
42nd. President, Democrat,

Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to
January 20, 2001

Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al Gore)
45th. Vice President, Democrat,

Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to
January 20, 2001

Question: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

Answer: The Democratic Party, with Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al
Gore), Vice President, casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate,
while he was Vice President of the US!


------------------THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK!!-----------------------


James Earl Carter, Jr. (Jimmy Carter)
39th President, Democrat
Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981


Question: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity
payment's to immigrants?


MY FAVORITE

ANSWER: That's right! JAMES EARL CARTER, JR. (JIMMY CARTER) (DEMOCRAT,

TERM OF OFFICE: JANUARY 20, 1977 TO JANUARY 20, 1981 .

WHEN IMMIGRANTS MOVED INTO THIS COUNTRY, AND AT AGE 65, BEGAN TO RECEIVE

SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY GAVE THESE PAYMENTS TO THEM,

EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER PAID A DIME INTO IT!


Then after violating the original contract (FICA) the Democrats turn around
and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

Why Can You Work Six Month's, and Draw 18 Month's of Unemployment?

Medicare Has Family's That Has Made It A Lifestyle, Abusing The System!

AMERICA CAN NOT SUSTAIN THIS KIND OF IRRESPONSIBILITY

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of Awareness will be planted
and maybe changes WILL evolve or Maybe not,

Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so. But it's worth a try.

VOTE FOR A CHANGE TO GET AMERICA BACK! NOT TO ENSLAVE AMERICA

VOTE MITT ROMNEY AND REPUBLICAN TO SAVE AMERICA

AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM



Thomas Jefferson
3rd President, Democrat
Term of Office: January 20, 1777 to January 20,1781

"A government big enough to give you everything you want,

is strong enough to take everything you have".
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wchan22
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:16:24 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2008
Posts: 904
gentlegiant wrote:
Most of our people know little or nothing about SS...
they need to know who started it and what has happened over
the years.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd. President, terms of office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945,

a Democrat who introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.

He Promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first
$1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program
would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year

4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent Trust
Fund, rather than into the General operating fund, and would only
be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program,
and no other Government program,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a
Social Security check every month and then finding that we are getting
taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government, to put away,
so you may be interested in the following:

Dwight David Eisenhower
34th. President, Republican,
Term Of Office: January 20, 1953 to January 20, 1961

If I recall correctly, 1958 is the first year that Congress, not
President Eisenhower, voted to remove funds from Social Security
and put it into the General Fund for Congress to spend.

If I recall correctly, it was a DEMOCRATICALLY controlled Congress.

From what I understand, Congress's logic at that time was that there was
so much more money in the Social Security Fund and that it would never
run out or be used up for the purpose it was intended or set aside for.

-------------WORSE STILL-----------

Lyndon Baines Johnson, 36th President,Democrat
Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 toJanuary 20, 1969

Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
Independent Trust Fund and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it?

Answer: It was Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat Term of Office:
November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969), and the Democratically controlled House and Senate.

--------------------READ ON -------------------------------------

Question: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security
(FICA) withholding? Answer: The Democratic Party.

-----------------------MOREOVER-------------------------------------


William Jefferson Clinton (Bill Clinton)
42nd. President, Democrat,

Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to
January 20, 2001

Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al Gore)
45th. Vice President, Democrat,

Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to
January 20, 2001

Question: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

Answer: The Democratic Party, with Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al
Gore), Vice President, casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate,
while he was Vice President of the US!


------------------THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK!!-----------------------


James Earl Carter, Jr. (Jimmy Carter)
39th President, Democrat
Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981


Question: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity
payment's to immigrants?


MY FAVORITE

ANSWER: That's right! JAMES EARL CARTER, JR. (JIMMY CARTER) (DEMOCRAT,

TERM OF OFFICE: JANUARY 20, 1977 TO JANUARY 20, 1981 .

WHEN IMMIGRANTS MOVED INTO THIS COUNTRY, AND AT AGE 65, BEGAN TO RECEIVE

SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY GAVE THESE PAYMENTS TO THEM,

EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER PAID A DIME INTO IT!


Then after violating the original contract (FICA) the Democrats turn around
and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

Why Can You Work Six Month's, and Draw 18 Month's of Unemployment?

Medicare Has Family's That Has Made It A Lifestyle, Abusing The System!

AMERICA CAN NOT SUSTAIN THIS KIND OF IRRESPONSIBILITY

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of Awareness will be planted
and maybe changes WILL evolve or Maybe not,

Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so. But it's worth a try.

AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM



Thomas Jefferson
3rd President, Democrat
Term of Office: January 20, 1777 to January 20,1781

"A government big enough to give you everything you want,

is strong enough to take everything you have".

I agree and it seems you like to research things,Who started all wars except Iraq. that was stared buy Bush and the democrats were so mad that they did not start it They refused to fund it.Truth Hurts.
pgculater
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:17:23 PM
Rank: Advanced Member


Joined: 7/1/2008
Posts: 904
From the beginning of Social Security, the individual Soc. Sec. cards had printed at the bottom "Not to be Used for Identification". The Senate Republicans fought hard to have this provision included because they feared something like the Nazis' national identification papers (Ihre Papieren, bitte). In 1986, during one of the "crisis" efforts to "save" Social Security, the Democrats insisted on removing this provision. Immediately, every credit card company, every credit bureau, every bank and insurance company and grocery store wanted , nay, insisted on getting your Social Security number before they would extend you credit.
It is this one action that has led to the explosion of identity theft crime that plagues us today.
Additionally, the Democrats included a provision that made it a Federal felony to refuse to furnish your SS# to any government official, federal, state, or local who demanded it. (Not sure if this includes the sewer worker who pops his head out of the manhole and says "What's your SS#?") The outrageous government invasions of privacy we see today (if we are looking in the right places) are all traceable to Democratic initiatives.
So who loves ya, baby?
gentlegiant
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:41:49 PM
Rank: Advanced Member


Joined: 8/1/2011
Posts: 190
Here is another list of how this wonderful President, has helped preserve and maintain everything that voters was promised he could and would correct if he was elected to office. It amazes me why there are so many people in America that doesn't trust him when he says he is going to do something for the benefit of America.

Below is a list of Obama’s documented lies so far with the most recent lies first.

Lies During Fourth Year
“Mitt Romney raised nursing home fees eight times.”
Politifact.com

“Mitt Romney called the Arizona law a model for the nation.”
Politifact.com

“Planned Parenthood provides mammograms”
Spero News

“We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system”
cbsnews.com

Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations
State Department

“Mitt Romney Plans to fire Big Bird”
Politifact.com

“Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”
politifact.com

Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.”
politifact.com

“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”
abcnews.com

Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
Factcheck.org

My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
Factcheck.org

“I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)

The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors
“You Didn’t Build that”
A few examples


Lies During Third YearI will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
Youtube

In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.
www.breitbart.com

I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever
Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza

Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
Examiner

“Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
Like Raising taxes?

Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.

GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
Dems Rejected Jobs Bill

You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
Gallup Poll: Only 69%

These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.
Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama

Jobs Bill Paid for
Seems not so much Paid for

Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11
I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
American.com

USA producing more oil than ever before
Petroleum Insights

Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
Department of Homeland Security says 5%

Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
National Taxpayers Union

Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
Cnn Interview

Lies During Second Year
Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.
nationalreview.com

No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
Obama Lies to Keep Czars

No “boots” on the ground Libya
Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground

Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill

All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
Obama Memo

I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
Obama’s Schedule
The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
Campaign and Presidency
If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
TownHall

“Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.

ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans

We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010

Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
Arizona Immigration Law

Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
Claims never documented


The Health Care Package will pay for itself
Time

Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.
Hmm Immigration?


We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
Democratic Debate Lies

Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas
Video Proof

I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.

I got the Message from Massachusetts
Daily Bail

Lies During First Year
We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
AP fact Checker

Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
AP fact Checker

Collective salvation
Obama calls himself a Christian
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009

Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
Associated Press Video

Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
Obama Lies

As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
ABC


Recovery Act will save or create jobs
ABC News

Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
Obama Lies

No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
CNN

I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
Specator.Org

We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
Obama Lies

I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
NPR

Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
Council on Foreign Relations.

Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
List of Tax Promise Violations

2008 Campaign Lies
I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain
Youtube

No more wiretapping of citizens
Youtube

Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
News Busters
I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Obama campaign would accept public funding
ABC

Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
A Socialist

Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
Mounting Heath Care Lies

Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.

Would have the most transparent administration in History
Cato Institute

We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
Boston Globe

I have visited all 57 states.
Snopes

I’ll get rid of earmarks
Source: Any bill passed during presidency

When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
Campaign Speech

My father served in World War II.
The Videos and the Facts

Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
News Video

Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
YouTube

Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.

Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
NPR

I Won Michigan
Huffington Post

I won Nevada
The Nation

I don’t Have Lobbyists
US News

My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
Crooks and Liars

I Have Always Been Against Iraq
Washington Post

My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
CNN

Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Obama Campaign Video

I Barely Know Rezko
Sun Times

My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
ABC News

gentlegiant
#5 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:20:07 AM
Rank: Advanced Member


Joined: 8/1/2011
Posts: 190
Since the GOP’s 2012 party platform is (understandably)
in the news this week, I thought it might be helpful to remind
voters what the Democrats were promising in 2008. For instance,
this section on the “false choice between the liberties we cherish
and the security we demand”:



The Democratic Party rejects this dichotomy.


We will restore our constitutional traditions, and recover our
nation’s founding commitment to liberty under law.


We support constitutional protections and judicial oversight on
any surveillance program involving Americans. We will review the
current Administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. We reject
illegal wiretapping of American citizens, wherever they live. We
reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who
are not suspected of a crime. We reject the tracking of citizens
who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. We reject
torture. We reject sweeping claims of “inherent” presidential
power. We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn
unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight
years. We will not use signing statements to nullify or undermine
duly enacted law. [...]


We will not ship away prisoners in the dead of night to be
tortured in far off countries, or detain without trial or charge
prisoners who can and should be brought to justice for their
crimes, or maintain a network of secret prisons to jail people
beyond the reach of the law. We will respect the time-honored
principle of habeas corpus, the seven century-old right of
individuals to challenge the terms of their own detention that was
recently reaffirmed by our Supreme Court. We will close the
detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, the location of so many of the
worst constitutional abuses in recent years. With these necessary
changes, the attention of the world will be directed where it
belongs: on what terrorists have done to us, not on how we treat
suspects.



It’s hard to remember now, but Democrats really did used to talk
about that stuff a lot. But now we have Drones flying in America to
moniter our every move, phones tapped without probably cause, invasive
airport screenings, and alot more. Is this what we want?





2012-08-23 06:32:06

Source: http://reason.com/blog/2...ivil-liberties-democrat
pgculater
#6 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:39:39 PM
Rank: Advanced Member


Joined: 7/1/2008
Posts: 904
Excellent.
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